Tall Ophrys fusca s.l. in January
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Tall Ophrys fusca s.l. in January
For some botanists and researchers, this plant and several others that looks alike are are lumped as Ophrys fusca (senso lato) and God bless them!
Few others (like me) follow Delforge system of splitting them and in Malta 5 species have been reported. I was wondering if this is one of those 5!
O. mesaritica
O. parosica
O. caesiella
O. fusca
O. pectus
(+ O. eleonorae ?) (no red coloration at the underside)
This specimen got my attention because:
1) the habitat was not a garigue in full sun, but under Cypress sempervirens at Buskett. (Buskett Road House area).
2) Was standing alone
3) Too late in time for O. fusca proper. It had the 5th flower in bloom, showing that it was flowering for 2-3 weeks.
4) Too tall for O. cf. mesaritica (Early flowering Brown Orchid / Mesara Orchid) and labellum was 16mm long.
Your comments appreciated!
Few others (like me) follow Delforge system of splitting them and in Malta 5 species have been reported. I was wondering if this is one of those 5!
O. mesaritica
O. parosica
O. caesiella
O. fusca
O. pectus
(+ O. eleonorae ?) (no red coloration at the underside)
This specimen got my attention because:
1) the habitat was not a garigue in full sun, but under Cypress sempervirens at Buskett. (Buskett Road House area).
2) Was standing alone
3) Too late in time for O. fusca proper. It had the 5th flower in bloom, showing that it was flowering for 2-3 weeks.
4) Too tall for O. cf. mesaritica (Early flowering Brown Orchid / Mesara Orchid) and labellum was 16mm long.
Your comments appreciated!
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I have come across occasional tallish plants with large labellum even at Dingli during this time of the year, and occasional shortish plants with smaller labellum later on in the season
According to splitters early flowering plants should be O. mesaritica and should therefore be short and have a short labellum - however the plants do not seem to care too much about this distinction - characters which are not consistent and overlap between so called species should not be used to define the species - such observations only strengthen my conviction that it is one variable species - but as you well know MWP I belong that group you have mentioned in the first sentence of your post.
According to splitters early flowering plants should be O. mesaritica and should therefore be short and have a short labellum - however the plants do not seem to care too much about this distinction - characters which are not consistent and overlap between so called species should not be used to define the species - such observations only strengthen my conviction that it is one variable species - but as you well know MWP I belong that group you have mentioned in the first sentence of your post.
Yes just like some women are fat ugly and hairy but others make you drool, still the same species...
little variations I suppose are normal, I would imagine that even the habitat would cause mini-evolutions in a short time frame in something with a relatively short lifespan and thus plenty of generations like a plant.
RB
little variations I suppose are normal, I would imagine that even the habitat would cause mini-evolutions in a short time frame in something with a relatively short lifespan and thus plenty of generations like a plant.
RB
According to Prof. Paulus of Vienna University, an authority on Orchids, this is Ophrys iricolor ssp maxima Paulus. He is also the authority of O. mesaritica and who have strong doubts that our small early-flowering Orchid is O. mesaritica and DNA tests are carried out. Might turn out to be an endemic!
Robcar, I prefer the simple idea of lumping, but it seems that at least in Orchids, the trend is towards splitting to a certain degree. I try to be accurate and updated as much as possible on the site since it is seen by a lot of people and sometimes not only by amateurs!
For example, I already have a 'flop' in Sisymbrium officinale, since a botanist from Wales have written me an email recently saying that many of the photos are actually of Hirschfeldia incana !!! The difference between the two is minimal (veins and beak of the pod), but still they are 2 different species.
The bad thing for us is that we do not have enough literature, and you must at least start with having Tutin's flora europaea ($$$). Worse, is when authorities do not agree and one names this abc and the other xyz - happens in Orchids!!
Robcar, I prefer the simple idea of lumping, but it seems that at least in Orchids, the trend is towards splitting to a certain degree. I try to be accurate and updated as much as possible on the site since it is seen by a lot of people and sometimes not only by amateurs!
For example, I already have a 'flop' in Sisymbrium officinale, since a botanist from Wales have written me an email recently saying that many of the photos are actually of Hirschfeldia incana !!! The difference between the two is minimal (veins and beak of the pod), but still they are 2 different species.
The bad thing for us is that we do not have enough literature, and you must at least start with having Tutin's flora europaea ($$$). Worse, is when authorities do not agree and one names this abc and the other xyz - happens in Orchids!!
I will definitely not be buying Flora Europaea at the cost of a second hand car
Yes in orchids the present tendency seems to be towards splitting -it is nice for many people who can incorporate their name (or that of their wife or cat) to a newly published 'species' - in case of plants which are important for trade (e.g. orchids and cacti), many names result in longer plant/seed lists = higher sales etc.
In fact splitting seems to be much more evident in groups such as orchids and cacti where a lot of work has been undertaken by dedicated (and often very knowledgable) amateurs rather than by trained botanists or taxonomists.
However at the end it all boils down to the fact that what constitutes a species is very subjective - there are no clear, rigid rules or guidelines as to what level of difference constitutes a species - so as long as the characteristics used for classification are consistent there is no right or wrong - differences which may be enough to justify a new species for a highly competent botanists (who we may label a splitter) may be considered as variation within a species by an equally competent botanist (who we tend to call a lumper)
While DNA analysis is still not going to resolve all problems, it will probably help clarify various issues in the future when correlated with distribution data and morphological characteristics.
In my opinion using the term 'species complex' or s.l in such ambiguous cases is the best compromise until further study gives us more reliable information.
Yes in orchids the present tendency seems to be towards splitting -it is nice for many people who can incorporate their name (or that of their wife or cat) to a newly published 'species' - in case of plants which are important for trade (e.g. orchids and cacti), many names result in longer plant/seed lists = higher sales etc.
In fact splitting seems to be much more evident in groups such as orchids and cacti where a lot of work has been undertaken by dedicated (and often very knowledgable) amateurs rather than by trained botanists or taxonomists.
However at the end it all boils down to the fact that what constitutes a species is very subjective - there are no clear, rigid rules or guidelines as to what level of difference constitutes a species - so as long as the characteristics used for classification are consistent there is no right or wrong - differences which may be enough to justify a new species for a highly competent botanists (who we may label a splitter) may be considered as variation within a species by an equally competent botanist (who we tend to call a lumper)
While DNA analysis is still not going to resolve all problems, it will probably help clarify various issues in the future when correlated with distribution data and morphological characteristics.
In my opinion using the term 'species complex' or s.l in such ambiguous cases is the best compromise until further study gives us more reliable information.
Well said Robcar, but I have to live and be accord with the reality of this Orchid splitting tendencay at this moment in time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophrys
Hope Paulus and Delforge are not reading here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophrys
Hope Paulus and Delforge are not reading here