Found this pine-like tree (not P. halepensis) cultivated and could not figure out what species is. The leaves did not smell much (maybe I already had first symptoms of the cold and could not smell much!)
Pinus pinea perhaps?
Pine tree but which?
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Pine tree but which?
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I'm not really "into" pines, but why did you exclude halepensis completely? Which identifiers did you use to exclude this? These could help with determining the species. Young halepensis are rather variable from the adult.
The pic is a bit too close up, the general shape of the tree would have given more info.
RB
The pic is a bit too close up, the general shape of the tree would have given more info.
RB
That's why I always used cones in my last reply-post because I felt that your comment was referring to this fruit-cones jargon.
The thing is that Flora Europea says "Fruit a cone which is usually woody" so it is not easy for students to know what is what sometimes!
Anyway, the point is that strictly speaking, we should refer to the "seeding structures" as cones rather than fruit.
And what about the species name of this Pine?
The thing is that Flora Europea says "Fruit a cone which is usually woody" so it is not easy for students to know what is what sometimes!
Anyway, the point is that strictly speaking, we should refer to the "seeding structures" as cones rather than fruit.
And what about the species name of this Pine?
From the pic, I do not really see anything different to a halepensis, the young trees look just like your photo.
Of course it could be something very close, but from the pic I don't really think one can say.
It all points that way, colour, everything - with colour being quite determining.
Halepensis is born grey-green, but then goes that bright green colour when it is about 40-50cm+ and will seem rather more robust than the adult specimen when it is actively growing rapidly in good conditions (which does not mean anything special for a tree that can practically grow on rock), say from about from 1m up to 2-3m.
But again the photo. Do you have one of the complete plant?
RB
Of course it could be something very close, but from the pic I don't really think one can say.
It all points that way, colour, everything - with colour being quite determining.
Halepensis is born grey-green, but then goes that bright green colour when it is about 40-50cm+ and will seem rather more robust than the adult specimen when it is actively growing rapidly in good conditions (which does not mean anything special for a tree that can practically grow on rock), say from about from 1m up to 2-3m.
But again the photo. Do you have one of the complete plant?
RB
Good one Anyway, I am attaching a large photo of the tree - hope it helps. I want to add that I am no expert in trees but from my observation, the leaves did neither look lile the normal P. halepensis, nor had that fragrant smell when the leaves where crushed, while the reproductive part was somehow new to my eyes!
The young(?) tree was not more from 2m
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Yes, also in Flora Europaea are still hundreds of mistakes! Anyway (just the correct explanation): Gymnosperms do not have fruits because the seeds are "-" and Angiosperms only found a way to cover the seed by a fruit wall... but this is not so important here 
This large pic of il-Pine ( ) reminds me of a young Pinus canariensis with the longer leaves. 
This large pic of il-Pine (
) reminds me of a young Pinus canariensis with the longer leaves. For me this is a halepensis at 2m high 
I have never seen one which looked any different at that size, it looks perfectly typical of a robustly growing young specimen. It seems like a roadside-planted example which would explain the (relatively) good condition it found itself in.
Given another 5-10 years it will look a lot more like the adult, since the growth rate will start to slow down. The branches will be more - and the needles shorter.
They look very lush at this age, don't they! Which is why jerks are attracted to these "free" xmas trees.
RB
I have never seen one which looked any different at that size, it looks perfectly typical of a robustly growing young specimen. It seems like a roadside-planted example which would explain the (relatively) good condition it found itself in.
Given another 5-10 years it will look a lot more like the adult, since the growth rate will start to slow down. The branches will be more - and the needles shorter.
They look very lush at this age, don't they! Which is why jerks are attracted to these "free" xmas trees.
RB