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What Acacia

Post by MWP admin » Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:14 pm

Is this acacia karoo ??? No flowers unfortunately. Found in private garden of Hospital.
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Post by RB » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:28 pm

Boqq not very good at this "names" thing, but I think many people refer to plants that look like this, as "mimosa".

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Post by robcar » Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:03 pm

I do not think that it is Acacia - perhaps Albizia :?:

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Post by IL-PINE » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:16 pm

agree with robcar

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Post by Sdravko » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:23 pm

no acacia, a karoo has long white spines, once you see it you never forget it.
its albizia although the fruits look sort of irregular. but they are quite old and rotten after all. usually albizia fruits are very neat and beatyful.

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Post by MWP admin » Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:56 pm

Thanks... Is it another ornamental species? Is it found naturalised in the wild?
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Post by RB » Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:02 pm

Very definitely non native. You need to lay off the public gardens for photographic subjects :wink:

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Post by robcar » Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:48 pm

As far as I know Albizia is "made in India"

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Post by jackpot » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:40 pm

yes, Albizzia julibrissin Durazz. (pos. misapplied = Acacia julibrissin Willd. or Albizzia nemu Benth.) ir origin to the temper. Asia

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:27 pm

Thanks
http://images.google.com.mt/images?svnu ... ulibrissin+

Searching google, the flowers where pinkish red... i think I saw in the distance white-cream flowers for the tree I posted ! Now confused if it was the same tree. Very nice if really makes those reddish flowers
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Post by robcar » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:51 pm

If flowers are yellowish white, it could possibly be Albizia lophantha - I have just looked up Albizia in the PIN book on trees and shrubs - that is where I must have read that it was from India since it is clearly stated so here - according to this source A.lophantha with cream flowers is also in Malta.

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Post by MWP admin » Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:04 pm

What about Albizia lebbeck? I came to this becasue I was at Sant'Anton with my girls today and came across to a very similar plant and the plaque had written "Albizia lebeg" (correction = Albizia lebbeck!)

Who is the curator of Sant' Anton?
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Post by RB » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:03 pm

Well your photos show 2 different plants so I guess that means that no.1 is not A le-whatever.

The flowers of your first pic, I imagine them to be larger, and pink normally.

The second, thanks for the name ;-) as I have one and another that grew from seed and now I know what it's called...

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Post by MWP admin » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:21 pm

I have to confirm if the white-cream flowers I seen from a distance belongs to pic 1. (read some 3 posts above). The leaves and fruit are not that different, apart that pic 1 seems old.
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Post by RB » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:41 pm

Your second pic is not the plant in the first photo, that is for sure.

In pic 1 it's either julibrissin or lopaphanta, very difficult without the flowers. The density of the leaflets is an important identifier, as against lebbeck, and conclusive is the seed pod, lebbeck makes straight seed pods 20cm+, compare with j-lo above.

I'd go for julie rather than lola, and say "Le" to lebbeck.

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Post by MWP admin » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:45 pm

YES, now I am 100% convinced !

I will hunt for the flowers of Pic 1 to close the discussion between 'julie' and 'loppy'
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Post by RB » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:53 pm

"Lola" :wink:

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Post by jackpot » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:40 am

in Sant'Anton the plaque "Albizia lebeg" = Albizia lebbeck is wrong- should be Leucaena leucocephala.

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:33 am

:scratch: interesting but not surprising (reminds me of only in Malta!)
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Post by Sdravko » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:52 pm

St Anton is cared for by the environmental landscapes consortium. dont think they have a curator like Argotti, just gardeners.
confirm Leucaena, one of the worst invasive trees in Malta.

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Post by MWP admin » Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:51 pm

I went to check the trees again and confirm that there where 2 different species, one which as you say is Albizia julibrissin which should have reddish flowers and next to it there are several trees with cream-white flowers (asshown in the pic below) which should be the same as Sant Anton, that is Leucaena leucocephala

Sorry for confusing you, but the trees where next to each other!

Btw, the place is St.Philips Hospital
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