Some fun for the hard working botanists and green fingered. A sort of posting Quiz and educative posts. N-Joi...
Moderators: MWP admin, IL-PINE
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:32 pm
Taken end of May
-
Attachments
-

- 0507.jpg (9.28 KiB) Viewed 102678 times
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:12 pm
I would say Beta maritima or an Amaranth
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:45 pm
It`s a cousin of Beta.
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:12 am
Hmmm... a chenopodiaceae ... Darniella mlt?
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:02 am
So sorry, but no.
The height of this plant is more than 2 mtrs. And You can eat the leafes, not JP only.
-
IL-PINE
- Premium Member
- Posts: 1112
- Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:55 pm
- Location: Qormi
-
Contact:
Post
by IL-PINE » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:15 pm
so Beta vulgaris
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:40 pm
Really not Beta.
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:43 am
Atriplex? Actually I have some 15 photos in my archive which should be this plant and in the unknown category. I had the idea that it is some Atriplex spp.
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:24 am
Prima!!! It is Atriplex .
Btw, what`s about Your journey to the North?
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:38 pm
12 days to go more for 6 weeks. I really look foward as I really worked hard this 9 months for the website. The opera is still in its behind the curtain
BTW, yr photo is Atriplex prostrata right? Photos of my specimen are laying on the ground wit hascending tips. The bract and fruit is exactly the same as in your photo.
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:36 pm
At first a short and not too hot time at home, a nice and safe trip and a wonderfull time for You and Your family.
But do You really eat leafs of A. prostrata?
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:23 am
In Malta we (or I) do not eat any Atriplex spp.
The prostrata idea came since my plant was prostrate. Have a look at the first set of photos from a specimen in Marsalforn. Maybe yours is A. halimus, but mine was not bushy, or maybe young plants have this prostrate habit at first.
-
Attachments
-

- Atriplex ?
- Atriplex1.jpg (157.17 KiB) Viewed 102535 times
-

- Atriplex ??
- Atriplex3.jpg (184.97 KiB) Viewed 102534 times
-

- Atriplex2.jpg (110.04 KiB) Viewed 102534 times
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:53 am
This one I identified as A. prostrata and hope, that is correct.
-
Attachments
-

- And that are the leafs from the Quiz-plant. I took the scrop (?) from a photo of the whole, big example, therefore the bad quality
- A.jpg (9.21 KiB) Viewed 102529 times
-

- A. prostr.jpg (14.76 KiB) Viewed 102529 times
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:37 am
Hi GreenHorn,
Do you think that the Quiz Atriplex plant and my plant are the same species which I do not think it is A. prostrata from the leaf-shape.
Also, your quiz plant is not A. halimus right?
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:49 am
Neither halimus nor prostrata.
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:35 am
Ok, finally I got myself to look into Haslam and eliminating one by one, it resulted (and I am quite sure) that it is Atriplex patula. The similar Atriplex hastata should have a flat or indented base.
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:05 pm
Remind please, it is eatable, and some Gozitan Farmers propagate it and serve it like spinach.
At google I coudn`t find a Synonyme for the name, I have in mind.
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:14 pm
Hmm.. in another document, A. patula is described very rare

so I wonder if mine is A. patula or just a Beta maritima. What a confusing family - I'm lost
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:47 pm
That patula You find in Germany as "weed to kill" in the fields and has more blueish (?) leafs like Yours. And it`s smaller than mine.
If it`s very rare, no wonder, I never met it on Gozo.
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:00 pm
Here a solitary plant in a field
-
Attachments
-

- Atriplex Feld.jpg (31.92 KiB) Viewed 102481 times
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:39 pm
This and my plant are not the same, though the inflorescences are similar. Atriplex portulacoides would be my last guess befor I give up.
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:51 pm
Sorry, no; please remember: it grows in a GARDEN.
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:54 pm
I give like the others now

-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:05 pm
Atriplex hortensis
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:07 pm
Are you sure? It is not listed in haslam Flora ! - Probably introduced recentely then.
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:58 pm
I know, that neither Borg nor Haslam nor Weber ( he till now )
list it, but I tried, to identify it carefully, when I found it in Bärtels Colour-Atlas of mediterranean Plants by Ulmer.
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:46 pm
Was it just one plant you saw, or few more? I'll show this post to Edwin.
Greetings and well done
-
greenhorn
- Veteran member
- Posts: 256
- Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:50 am
- Location: Köln, Germany
Post
by greenhorn » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:38 pm
The first plants, I saw, grow in Wied Infern and some days later I saw this one near the farm at the end of Triq ta Konti in Zebbug; that is near Grazias house, where, as I suppose, You took that Althaea rosea- Photo.
-
Edwin Lanfranco
- Botanical Expert
- Posts: 34
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:36 pm
- Location: Malta
Post
by Edwin Lanfranco » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:16 pm
The plant in question is Beta vulgaris, the cultivated beet, which occasionally escapes
-
MWP admin
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3142
- Joined: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:23 am
- Location: Malta
-
Contact:
Post
by MWP admin » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:13 pm
so Beta vulgaris
You're a genius pine
Thanks Edwin, I'll put No.1 in he consultant list in my new version of the website next Autumn.