Page 1 of 1

No Comments - MWP 02

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:29 pm
by MWP admin
Scherzi della natura :P

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:41 pm
by RB
Very beautiful I must say! Wonder whether that was a freak thing or whether the performance will be repeatable next year. it would be tempting to attempt to self-pollinate this and have a go at growing the seeds. Who knows MWP you may end up with a "variegata" strain which you may sell the seeds and marketing rights for :wink:

RB

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:04 pm
by MWP admin
I think there was some damage to half of the bulb according to the yellow part is more or less half the plant. Honestly, I have lot of other things to take care, but I would be very angry if in few years time I will see it selling $$ per packet of seeds from someone else.

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:20 pm
by Glimbo
The virus would have to be 'stable' over a good few prop cycles before you'd know for certain that you were going to get a perfect result,( fit for cloning for the market).

You can only rely on vegetative prop for reliable results - you'd have to scale the bulb, rather than sowing the seed. Mind you, if the seed propagates easily enough, one could choose the 'sports' one wanted. - Then clone THEM.


Could be a nice little earner though - I do mean 'little' though, unless you licence the whole procedure and effectively copywrite/patent the plant you'll get a couple of hundred quid. something to keep you busy RB.........

lol.g 8)

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:56 pm
by RB
Haha Glimbo I'm happy enough just looking at the pic...

RB

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:16 pm
by IL-PINE
heh, an artistic virus it seems

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:46 pm
by D. Cilia
Is that Scilla? Doesn't look like virus or damage since the leaves look healthy despite the colour (and viral variegation produces a mosaic pattern, not perfectly delineated stripes)... I would say it's some kind of very slight genetic variation ('chimaeral variegation'). Agreed, lovely picture!

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:49 pm
by D. Cilia
I'd like to add that plants like these are very weak in the wild and tend to die out after very few generations, since the white part is unable to synthesize the food necessary from sunlight.

So perhaps Stephen you *must* take some seeds for posterity :P

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:34 am
by MWP admin
It is difficult to say what have happened here, but since half of the plant is affected, it could be some 'damage' (viral, mechanical, chemical, extraterrestrial ?!) to the corresponding side of the bulb.


Well, in summer there is less things to do and perhaps I revisit the plant for some photos. The seeds would take a couple of years to produce flowering mature plants so I do not think I have that patience.

Yes, its important to copyright/patent your own work and ideas to legally protect yourself from other who might copy and imitate to make profit out of them. I just have a new case which I think it will end up in court after speaking to a lawyer.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:41 am
by RB
D. Cilia wrote:I'd like to add that plants like these are very weak in the wild and tend to die out after very few generations, since the white part is unable to synthesize the food necessary from sunlight.
Most probably if the effect is genetic the gene may be recessive, and pollination with other plants would make it most likely that none or a fractional percentage only of the offspring would be this way. Hence the requirement to self-pollinate, and removing the possibilty of any of the flowers being pollinated by "normal" plants.

Even then, only a few would be this way (if any - no guarantees) but if you end up with more than one, this is a start!

RB

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:55 pm
by IL-PINE
i bet its extraterrestrial damage :)

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:35 pm
by MWP admin
Regards pollination, one should pollinate it with its own pollen and cover the flowers so that it is impossible to get pollen from normal flowers by bees. The chances of having seeds with the varegated phenotype are better, but again not certain!

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:30 am
by RB
I find you GUILTY of post SKIMMING so we'll meet up in jail, ehh???

You did not read my post which said just the exact same thing??? (just like I skimmed over yours :-D )

RB

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:04 pm
by MWP admin
Ooops you are right. We might forgive each ours sins :lol: :oops:


RB wrote: Hence the requirement to self-pollinate, and removing the possibilty of any of the flowers being pollinated by "normal" plants.

Even then, only a few would be this way (if any - no guarantees) but if you end up with more than one, this is a start!

RB