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Another one to ID.....

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:23 am
by Glimbo
Hi again,

I think this plant is at Howard Gdns. I haven't a note of it in my little black book. I can't find it in my books although I know you'll know this :)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:59 pm
by MWP admin
Hi Glimbo, it is quite badly unfocused however, I suggest the Genus Myoporum. Where is Howard garden?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:19 pm
by RB
I'm thinking Sapindus indica from the leaves, but honestly never saw the flowers of this tree so do not know. Pic not too clear, if it were, the leaves would be sufficient to confirm.

viewtopic.php?t=1174
(scroll down)

RB

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:23 pm
by RB
Howard gardens are in (just outside) Mdina and it is likely that the tree is a Sapindus coz from memory I think there are a couple.

By the parking area at Mdina are also the "pampas trees" (??) the trees with a very gnarly trunk that look like they are thousand years old.

RB

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:33 pm
by MWP admin
Here is a photo of Myoporum laetum which I think resembles Glimbo's photo (including leaves)
I did not know that the Garden outside Mdina is called Howard - thanks for the info.

Image

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:37 pm
by MWP admin
... on the other hand the inflorescences looks as if hanging down, and in single numbers a characteristic against Myoporum :?: :roll:

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:48 pm
by MWP admin
Here is a link for Sapindus saponaria...

http://www.sbs.utexas.edu/bio406d/image ... onaria.htm

Strangely, the flowers are not shown too, the leaves are not very convincing when comparing this species against Glimbo's photo.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:09 am
by RB
It's true that the link you suggest S.sap. is most definitely not the plant in Glimbo's pic.

The plant in Glimbo's pic is the tree we discussed in the thread linked to above, however it seems that the name we decided upon there (Sapindus indica) which it is apparently known by at San Anton, may not be correct.

There are quite a few Sapindus to go through and check out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus

RB

I was wondering

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:45 am
by Glimbo
Hi again,

Sorry about the picture quality on this one, I was looking at plants and trailing in my Mother's wake.....so I had to be quick about it!

I was looking again last night and wondering about Lichii chinensis, which I'm not sure at all that this plant is, BUT, of course it is the same family as Sapindus indica :?

Flowers were stellate and five pointed and the foliage was the light green that is captured in the image. I've attached another image of the foliage although, sadly I've no other 'photo of the flowers.

Look at this....

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:01 am
by Glimbo
Hiya, I've found a link of the inflorescence of L chinensis, what do you think?

http://www.lycheesonline.com/FlowerTypes.cfm

I think this confirms the family at least and with a little imagination this could be a contender....... :? :reindeer:

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:06 pm
by jackpot
we still had this discussion in this year:
it is Harpullia pendula or H. arborea, but it is in all gardens wrongly labelled as Sapindus indica, but the name Sapindus indicus exists as a Synonym of Sapindus saponaria.[/i]

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:13 pm
by MWP admin
Here is the link that Jackpot mentioned.

http://maltawildplants.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1174

Glimbo, from my side I concord with jackpot's conclusion (well done JP/RB). The leaves are of the same light green colour and shape. I never seen the flowers of this tree yet while the fruit are more interesting and conspicuous!

that is..

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:26 pm
by Glimbo
Hi again,

Thanks for sending the link, that most decidedly is the plant that I have been talking about.

Now, knowing more about this species from your discussions last year, and from the images that Jackpot sent in the link, I have no doubt whatever that we are all talking about the same plant.



:albino: one happy bunny :)

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:31 pm
by RB
Silly me, never saw the follow-ups to the original thread where the name of this tree was definitively cleared up (thanks to Jack)- not even when I referred to it as above.

Anyway...

Another happy bunny.

RB