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Post by jackpot » Thu May 04, 2006 9:12 am

very very rare in the wild (I know 1 plant) :wink:
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Post by MWP admin » Fri May 05, 2006 10:52 am

Fritillaria spp?
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Post by jackpot » Fri May 05, 2006 12:29 pm

extremely cold :lol:

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Post by IL-PINE » Fri May 05, 2006 1:57 pm

Looks like one of those jungle plants that catch flies!
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Post by robcar » Fri May 05, 2006 11:00 pm

agree with pine - are you sure you did not by mistake post a photo from the Amazon forest :?: :lol:

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Post by MWP admin » Fri May 05, 2006 11:08 pm

I did not give up yet on this one!

It reminds me of something at the back of the mind.

Berndt, are the flower clusters smaller or larger from 8-9mm across? And if it is not too much, Monocot or Dicot ? (Hyacinth? Allium?)
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Post by jackpot » Mon May 08, 2006 8:07 am

It is a pretty common tree o Malta`s roads!

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Post by jackpot » Thu May 11, 2006 2:02 pm

:?: :?: :?: :(

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Post by IL-PINE » Thu May 11, 2006 2:09 pm

Still no idea :lol:

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Post by wolf » Fri May 12, 2006 5:33 pm

Sorry Jack ..... BUT this is what " a common tree on Malta's roads " looks like.....

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Post by jackpot » Fri May 12, 2006 6:05 pm

:lol:

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Post by jackpot » Fri May 12, 2006 6:10 pm

ok, we have weekend now. If you go to San Anton Gardens: on the left hand side of the entrance is a public parking area- look at the first tree and you will see flowers (should be in flower now) :D

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Post by jackpot » Wed May 17, 2006 1:53 pm

I feel that the forum members are tired....:cry:
To open the secret: Brachychiton populneus (Sterculiaceae)

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Post by MWP admin » Wed May 17, 2006 2:08 pm

I did not went to Sant Anton this time and if I have seen it I would not arrive to it.
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Post by jackpot » Wed May 17, 2006 2:38 pm

sure you would!

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Post by MWP admin » Wed May 17, 2006 3:34 pm

"Arrive to it" = guess what it is not arrive physically there!
In simple words if I have seen the tree I think I would still not reckognize it.
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Post by robcar » Wed May 17, 2006 7:23 pm

I am not really tired but rather ignorant about ornamentals :oops:

I have been trying to identify it for a long time but would never have arrived at the identification because I had no idea at all that this tree is planted in Malta - I did not have any idea on what to look for.

in fact it is the first time I am hearing the name of this tree - will be going to have a look at that car park near San Anton

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Post by robcar » Thu May 18, 2006 4:43 pm

Went to have a look at the Brachychiton trees near San Anton - unfortunately because of pruning, the flowers were too high up for me to see properly, but they seemed less reddish on the inside than in your photo.

- there is also a strange ornamental tree in the same public parking area (last tree at the opposite end), with a swollen, bottle shaped trunk, with lots of pointed proturbances on the bark - any idea what could that be? Thanks

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Post by wolf » Thu May 18, 2006 5:22 pm

I think I know the strange ornamental tree Robcar refers too - the trunk resembles a dwarf baobab ( exotic tree ) for all I know it cud be of the same family. There are similar trees round one of the ponds in San Anton
Like Robcar I claim full ignorance on ornamental trees though I recognise a bouganvilla now and then....

time for jack to take over here

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Post by IL-PINE » Thu May 18, 2006 10:36 pm

Heh I have neither ever heard of the tree and neither of its family!
And I thought it was a rather small plant.!

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Post by MWP admin » Thu May 18, 2006 10:42 pm

I too give up
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Post by MWP admin » Thu May 18, 2006 10:43 pm

I too give up

PS: my last quiz (No.15) is not an ornamental plant - you should try to guess what it is !!!
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Post by jackpot » Fri May 19, 2006 8:48 am

:) From the far the flower looks like more whitish, close up its more pinkish to reddish. Fruits are interesting, too. Like a wheel of capsules. Btw: the tree is very close related to the cacao tree!
Yes, wolf is right with the bottle tree noticed from robcar along the parking area. There are also trees in front of Mosta church, recognizable by the thorny main stem, as well as in a nice atrium within San Anton Gardens on the left hand side close to the toilets/restrooms :wink: . It is a Bombacaceae called Chorisia speciosa, my favorite between the ornamentals.

Why do I think that ornamentals are so important? I send you some thoughts as an extract from my book introduction about Malta`s ornamentals:
Especially young people do not have much interest in plants due to the lack of information, in times of believe in technical progress nature suffers from neglect. Who cares for that inconspicuous plant in the garrigue or maquis, in the wied or at the cliffs. We prefer to spend our time in front of the TV, the computer or surfing the web. At the most we take little walk in between, or go rambling on Sundays.
But, rambling is nicest in a peaceful ambience, best where we can enjoy beauty. Thus, on a nicely featured beach promenade or in a little romantic park. Well, this is natures big chance: to attract with exotic glory. Isn’t it most important to raise a first pleasing attention? This does not work theoretically – it must be felt, smelled, behold by own sensations. And if we, due to disinterest, do not go to the plants, the plants, exotics from all over the world, just have to come to us. They need to attract us with their spectacular appearance, charming fragrance or unusual manner. Of course, the indigenous but modest wallflower also would deserve the same regard, but usually, if at all, it is the startling exotic ornamental attracting our eye in the first place.
It won’t make any difference to nature how we get interested, provided we do. There is a chance only when man is awake and does not sleep away natures doom. Only interest can initiate care. “Ornamental plants”, therefore, is a vehicle in order to convey a first concern for plants and nature to heart and brain. This, eventually, will also serve the inconspicuous wallflower.

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Post by robcar » Fri May 19, 2006 3:32 pm

Looking at it that way, there certainly is a good reason to have some more respect for ornamentals - I like them because many are somewhat unusual, fancy and spectacular like that Chorisia - thanks I now know what it is - (I am sure that they would look even better in their natural habitat) but i know very little about them

- the problem is that trying to learn a little about the wild flora is already difficult for me and takes so much time - adding the ornamentals too makes it even more difficult!

I did not know you have a book about Maltese ornamentals - some information about it? Thanks

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Post by jackpot » Sat May 20, 2006 9:50 am

No, I have (not yet) a published book about Maltese ornamentals, but the manuscript with 250 pics lays in the office of a Maltese publisher since 15 months. Now, I became angry with the publisher and have cancelled the offer and will possibly publish it with the German company Margraf (who publish the flora within the next few weeks). So, Ornamental Plants of Malta will be available in about 12 months, I hope.
Yes, of course it is enough for interested people but "non-professionals" to consider the native flora only, but for professional botanists (like professors for systematics :wink: ) they need to know them (at least to be interested in).

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Post by robcar » Sun May 21, 2006 5:23 pm

Ok, very good so now we can look forward to two books not one, one hopefully quite soon and one quite some time later - such books are always very welcome :)

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Post by jackpot » Tue May 23, 2006 8:56 am

:D

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Post by MWP admin » Mon May 07, 2007 8:55 am

What was the name of this tree with bell-shaped flowers ? Was it revealed in this post? I gave a quick look add did not manage to extract a name!
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Post by RB » Mon May 07, 2007 9:37 am

You missing some posts? Brachychiton populneus


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Post by RB » Mon May 07, 2007 9:48 am

BTW JP thanks for this, I have three of these in large pots which are approx 10 feet high which I have grown from seed, sown quite some years ago. I had collected the seed from San Anton gdns. But I never knew the name.

They are very resistant to poor conditions, I have only replaced the 30cm pot they were in, about one month ago.

I correct you in one thing - These are not really easy to think of as "common" street trees, up to about 5 years ago approx I only ever saw this in San Anton, although now it can be found recently planted such as at the new road by the lower entry of Chadwick Lakes. For us "common" street trees, we think of Ficus nitida, Eucalyptus, Acacia, Pinus, Oleander, and similar.

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