Challenging identifications !!

Requests about identification of wild plants in Malta and Gozo. (Please include precise details and pictures to help the experts in their ID process)

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Challenging identifications !!

Post by wolf » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:20 pm

A couple of pics taken a week ago in Switzerland in the Lugano area - it was really beautiful and amazingly sunny and warm - just enjoy the pics or venture into identification - sw3 looks like a scrophularia and another looks like a farfalle pasta !
Correct answers qualify for a bar of Lindt chocolate...unless the wife beats you to it ( the choc not the identification... )

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Post by jackpot » Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:35 pm

Linaria cymbalaria (in Malta: in Xemxija at walls) :wink:
Dianthus gratianopolitanus
Campanula glomerata

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Post by wolf » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:13 pm

Bravo ! ...sorry I MEANT linaria when I said scrophularia - but I am not sure I have seen it in Malta
so jack are these typical alpine flora or just mediterranean since the Ticino region has a very mild climate ?

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Post by MWP admin » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:25 pm

OH! that explains why I heard no growls of wolves (or what word should I use for their sound) on the forum recently, they where enjoying the beautiful flora of Lugano!

Pic 2 really nice, both photo and nature!
Pic 1 never seen it (looked as a strange Viola spp) and quite surprised that it is both in Malta and in Alpine region

TNX for the photos

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Post by IL-PINE » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:41 pm

Pic 1 is frequent on several walls and in some areas even on pavements in Qormi and Birkirkara :)

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Post by wolf » Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:53 am

the pics were all shot in wild but sometimes close to habitation linaria was on walls everywhere ...as a rule I do not shoot garden plants - it isnt much fun ...

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Post by MWP admin » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:27 pm

OH Yes, maybe it is that Scrophulariaceae with IVy-like leaves and climber growth habit. Now I am reckognizing it now. I seen it in Ta' Paris, B'kara/Fleur the lys and I think I have a post about it here ?!
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Post by Sdravko » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:31 am

the campanula is probably not glomerata biut too many campanulas in switzerland to say anything from just a photo. all three sp are neither alpine nor mediterranean but have a wide distribution in europe.

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Post by wolf » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:29 am

I assume linaria cymbalaria is synonymous with veronica cymbalaria
...is that correct ? Do not believe this species is too common in Malta but I am pleased to say I located just one plant today at Wied is-Sewda ...interesting also that tribulus terrestris is found in very small patch not too far from mt.carmel hospital

photo of cymbalaria from wied is-sewda attached for comparison

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Post by robcar » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:18 pm

No - Veronica cymbalaria is something else (although it is in the same family)

The synonym of Linaria cymbalaria is Cymbalaria muralis - it is quite frequent on walls around the Balzan Area - a good part of my brother's yard in B'Kara is covered with it

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Post by wolf » Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:26 pm

thanks rob...i mix up my latin so hopelessly - ver.cymbalaria is the one we found at selmun way back in feb i think - that time when sdravko showed us his ability to go up vertical cliff faces....

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Post by Sdravko » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:19 pm

:lol:

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Post by IL-PINE » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:02 am

Agreed :)

And he climbed walls with his backpack! The perfect naturalist :)

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Post by jackpot » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:30 pm

I regard Campanula glomerata agg. as deemed-to-satisfy provision :D
a sufficient name for wolf (and me)... 8)

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Post by RB » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:55 pm

Linaria cymbalaria - Common, maybe overlooked, and highly pestilent!! I had planted some seeds in our garden several years ago, and I am still ripping them out as soon as they appear, in their hundreds, if not controlled!

http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/t/toaivy20.html

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Post by sandra » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:47 pm

Yes Extremely difficult to remove. My mum has been trying to remove these from her garden since I was in primary school, to no avail. They creep all over the place!

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Post by MWP admin » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:00 pm

They have rootstock which is always alive (perennial). You can control it but not eridicate it, unless you change the whole soil!
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