another one without ID

chea · Post by **chea** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:47 pm

My biggest problem is to identify faded plants. This one I've found at Chadwick Lakes, 25th May 2015.
Plant height: 60 cm
Thanks and regards
Monika

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:10 pm

Cynoglossum creticum

chea · Post by **chea** » Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:22 pm

I haven't even seen Cynoglossum creticum flowering. I only know it from pictures.
Grazzi Ä§afna!
Monika

RB · Post by RB » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:28 pm

Good one Pine! For some reason my subconscious suggested Anchusa azurea which I knew it wasn't but now I realise why, I get these two confused...

RB

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 10:41 pm

Well dont worry both are among the most beautiful of our plants
i bet you have both in your garden ðŸ˜‰

RB · Post by RB » Wed Nov 25, 2015 11:17 pm

No actually but the Anchusa is very tempting... just never got round to collecting seeds at the right time...

RB

chea · Post by **chea** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:48 pm

Anchusa azurea is a very beautiful flower. But I haven't seen it till now. In Switzerland we have Anchusa arvensis (light blue) and Anchusa officinalis (dark blue).

RB · Post by RB » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:10 pm

It usually flowers in late spring, is not very common, usually in disturbed ground - in fields that are left fallow, etc. I believe this is also a cultivated flowering plant, probably with care the flower display is much more impressive, I once grew Verbascum sinuatum and it bore little comparison to the specimens found in the wild - much larger flowers and plant.

Similarly in Sicily wild plants seem to grow larger... Giant fennel grows commonly well over 2m tall. More water, deeper soils.

RB

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:46 pm

yes very showy. never cultivated it myself - same problem, collecting seeds in may/june not my favourite time!

cynoglossum creticum I always manage to grow for a few months then they wither and die, just before flowering!

RB · Post by RB » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:11 pm

Probably too much water - probably needs growing in pure compost as it is difficult to maintain correct humidity levels in a pot when using any local soil. I tend to lose Cistus that way, this year have sown in a mix of compost and a decent percentage of Etna lava sand which makes the medium very very free draining. Same with Sage, very sensitive to water in Summer (hates it...)

chea · Post by **chea** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:40 pm

I follow your debate with interest. It is difficult to grow wild plants. That's why I only have wild flowers in my garden, which have gone up by itself.
I'm going to show our Anchusa. They are not in my garden, I found them on the edge of a corn field.

IL-PINE · Post by **IL-PINE** » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:26 pm

wow very beautiful genus

Post by **MWP admin** » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:45 pm

Thanks for your help guys