ID of a non spectacular grass

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ID of a non spectacular grass

Post by MWP admin » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:51 pm

I used to know this plant but after 3 months break. it remained unlabelled and could not figure out its name. Was it a type of Bromus?
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Post by jackpot » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:22 am

could be Cynosurus echinatus?

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Post by jackpot » Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:28 am

ok- if this is the same plant, it sho uld be a Bromus :)

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Post by RutgerB » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:49 pm

Please measure the lemma's; Bromus madritenis 12-20 mm, B. rubens 9-13 mm.
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Post by MWP admin » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:57 pm

Thanks RutgerB,

Bromus diandrus has a quite different structure, so I am quite confident on B. madritensis.


B. diandrus:
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/1532786
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Post by RutgerB » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:21 pm

I ment B. rubens. Looks the same (also a bit reddish), but is of a different size. Hard to see on a picture.
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Post by MWP admin » Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:20 pm

Yes, now your comment makes more sense re Bromus rubens

Image of Bromus rubens from the internet:

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From the species name, B. rubens should be reddish, but the measurments are the distinguishing features. I will recheck the plants next year if I find them.
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Post by Danpav » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:25 pm

Hello everybody !
I am Daniel the french
What about Bromus fasciculatus ?

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Post by MWP admin » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:17 am

Welcome to the MaltaWildPlants form Daniel :-)

I never checked the population again, and it goes around Bromus madritensis, Bromus rubens and Bromus fasciculatus, distinguished by measurments which cannot be accessed from these photo.

B. rubens would be my wish as I do not have photos of it!
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Post by Danpav » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:24 am

Here yoa can see the two "extremes"...but sometimes it's really difficult to distinguish !!
The real character is the "lema"
rubens : lanceolated 2x15 mm
fasciculatus : linear 1x12 mm (and curved)
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Post by IL-PINE » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:05 pm

welcome to the forum :0

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